know you think cal ripken, junior is the most over rated player in baseball history? >> wait, wait, wait, excuse me? how dare you? >> i am not finished, ma'am. so given that what do you think of the decision not to elect anyone this year? >> i am conflicted over it because i know that there are a lot of fantastic players who have taken steroids and done the doping thing. they are probably slipping by. but i do like the message it sends and i think it is about time we hold these guys accountable and especially the ones who get up there. roger clemens -- i never did anything -- look, you mow, it is what it is. >> i think they knew no one was getting in and that's why today they say they are having a random test of hgh. i think it was one plan. >> that is not a bad point? >> bonds, clemens, they are just the ones that got caught. >> completely. >> cal ripken never would have. >> stop giving to contracts to those who are cheating and then the others won't cheat. >> it is nice that frank thomas will go into the hall as of next year. >> bill, as a white sox fan you know frank thomas most

are so cynical. years in television and radio has made you a sin that you cal man, but -- cynical man. but you are still sexy. the sexy can sells the cynicism. piers had a guy larry pratt on and called him an idiot. now hasn't piers figured out find the guy who is the worse spokesman? >> that's what i was going to say. instead of arguing the point in an educated way he finds somebody who looks completelypsn rights news yism in that way. enthusiast in that way. >> that's right. you were nodding the whole time alex was talking. when he said new world order you said finally. you yelled finally we are back to new world order. >> the hatchet man of the new world order. we are never going to agree on this one. i don't even know why we are discussing this. i think what we should do is you can wear your rainbow trunks and i will wear my don't tread on my briefs and we can have this out like men. >> we did that last week and there wasn't even an argument about that. >> i just love wearing the briefs. >> i do love wearing them. >> i do think there is a middle ground to the debate. even if you d

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